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Was The Secret Of Mechiras Yosef Ever Revealed?
Did Yaakov ever find out the circumstances of Mechiras Yosef?  If yes, when, how, and who told him?

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ca, 2009-01-08 03:57:23
There are at least two Rashi's in Vayechi that allude to the fact that Yaakov knew. First Rashi says by Shimon & Levi, ubitzonum ikru shor referring to their desire to kill Yosef.

Also by Yehuda, Rashi explains miteref bni ulisa, you removed yourself from killing Yosef by saying Ma Betza.

How and where he knew from, i'd love to know myself.
Anonymous, 2009-01-08 10:58:28
the answer is brought in the book Midrash Says, pg. 445. look at the bottom for original source
Anonymous, 2009-01-08 11:02:32
My ten year old daughter says her teacher told her that the Shevatim would always make sure that one of them was present when Yaakov was with Yosef fearing that if they would be alone Yosef would tell him.
bz, brooklyn usa, 2009-01-08 11:39:24
Who was matir the cherem? & why?

It could not be Yosef that revealed the secret. Why would he מצער his father
beside the issur of lashon harah
dc, 2009-01-10 13:31:25
A third Raya from Rashi in Parshas Vayechi is from the end of the parsha when the Shvatim told Yosef that Yakov wanted Yosef to forgive them-Rashi says the Shvatim were 'meshaneh mipnai hashalom', because Yakov never told them this-reason being that Yakov was not choshed Yosef to hold a grudge against the Shvatim. Rashi doesn't say the reason Yakov didn't say this is that he never knew they did anything wrong to him. Mashma again that Yakov knew about the Mechira.
In answer to why and how Yakov found out after all these years of not knowing-Rashi says Hashem never revealed the Mechira to Yakov because the Shvatim made a Cherem not to tell about the Mechira, and included Hashem in the Cherem. The Rosh in P' Vayigash (45:1) comes to explain why Yosef never sent word to Yakov that he was alive and well, and says that Yosef too was included in the Cherem, and could not be matir the Cherem unless there was a minyan-only once the brothers came did he have a minyan to be matir the cherem. According to this it could very well be that now that the Cherem was off, Hashem was able to reveal the Mechira to Yakov.
yb, brooklyn usa, 2009-01-11 09:33:50
To DC:

why would they be matir the cherm ?

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